Lindsay: 0:07

Welcome. Welcome. Cut the Noise, wellness Simplified. This is Ben. Episode 27 with Lindsay.

Ben: 0:14

Hello, hello, I cannot believe. Again. We're on episode 27. And you know, we're always just so grateful to be here chatting with you, having these conversations, and if you've been around and you've listened to 26 episodes with us, now 27,. First of all, we want to say thank you. Thank you because that's amazing, and if you're new here and you don't know who we are and maybe you just jumped in on episode 27 because somebody shared it with you, because somebody thought it would be fun for you to listen to, hi.

Lindsay: 0:44

Hi, absolutely, it's interesting. You should just raise that point. I love that. I've heard that a lot. Actually, I've heard how listeners people who have been listening to us for a longer period of time have recommended the podcast to other people. That they can feel while they feel like they can get something from there's something to gain and and honestly that's so encouraging Like they can get something from there's something to gain and honestly that's so encouraging.

Ben: 1:05

Yeah, the other day I got a message saying I had no idea Ben had an accent, and it's funny. We have this conversation often. I've been with him for what? 20 plus years, 23, 24 years, and I don't hear it nearly as often as I'd like to.

Lindsay: 1:18

But Do people still say that?

Ben: 1:20

They do. I just had this conversation with somebody and then I had this similar conversation with a client of mine. I did a reel she had listened to your reel and then she had listened to our podcast last week about breathwork and she said to me yes, make sure he does some breathwork videos, because I'll listen to anything he says with that accent. That's ridiculous. So, anyways, those of you who are new, hello welcome. We're so happy to have you here you know Ben, and I have been doing this podcast now since March.

Lindsay: 1:55

Yeah, I think March Well 27 weeks?

Ben: 1:56

Well, of course, I think it is.

Lindsay: 1:57

March. I mean, it was March, I think it's.

Ben: 1:58

March, but we've been talking about doing it for four to five years. So we have been doing what we do and what we love in this industry for 20 plus years, and so to get it out into a podcast world, into the world of podcasts, we love it.

Lindsay: 2:12

It's interesting. You should say that it actually brings us to our subject. You know if I could change anything about this podcast. Do you know what it would be? No, I don't know what it would be. Do you want to know?

Ben: 2:21

Yeah, of course.

Lindsay: 2:22

It would have been to start four or five years ago bloody hell.

Ben: 2:24

No, kidding, my goodness. This is something that, guys. If I were to change one thing about this podcast, is that you would have listened to me about it four or five years ago that's fair, but it's interesting.

Lindsay: 2:35

We're going to talk about that a little bit, and it's not necessarily about the idea of starting, uh, four or five years, it's like maybe just starting today or even tomorrow, and it kind of brings us to the topic. We don't really have a working title for this particular episode. We just have an idea that we just we really want to share because, well, because it affects us, it affects the clients we work with and it affects a lot of the people that we're speaking to that are looking at potentially becoming clients.

Ben: 3:04

Yeah, now, if you listen to this real time, it is September 5th or 6th, I don't even know, it's the 6th right, no, no, the 6th is later this week.

Lindsay: 3:13

It's the 2nd of September, it's somewhere in.

Ben: 3:16

September. This is what happens and this is what we're going to talk about today, because September is, in real time, a very interesting month and I think that's that's the the point here.

Lindsay: 3:26

So, like I mean, we have just come off the back of our kids being off for 10 weeks, 10 weeks of summer. Now kids, obviously, as you know or if you don't know, we actually live in mexico, we live in central mexico and our kids go to a school that is based off the uS system, or certainly a US system in.

Ben: 3:45

Texas. I know a lot of you USers have been going back to school since August.

Lindsay: 3:48

In actual fact, the US state to state is so different anyway, but the kids finished third week of June, second week of June and then they're just going back basically the first middle of the first week of September. So it's about 10 weeks which you, you know, basically Lindsay and I both feel is excessive and actually the kids also feel like it's excessive to go back you know they, I think six to eight weeks probably.

Lindsay: 4:14

You know they would probably say maybe six to eight weeks. They probably want eight if they had six. And if they had six, yeah, in.

Ben: 4:20

Canada we had eight, and I felt like that was a pretty good number. You always had July and August off, and then you went back to school.

Lindsay: 4:26

Right.

Ben: 4:26

But, and just if you are not listening to this in real time, this, what we're going to talk about can actually be done and this is what we're going to say as well at any time of the year.

Lindsay: 4:37

I was going to say, I mean, this is the irony of what we're going to talk about is, let's say, for example, example, this is October and you're listening to this in October. Just replace the word September with October, and the same applies for all of the other months as well. And and this the the topic isn't really about like starting now, starting tomorrow. It's not about don't wait, it's not about don't defer it, even though if you've listened to the podcast, you know you need to get on these things now and stop pushing them off. There's never a good time.

Lindsay: 5:06

What we do want to talk about today a little bit is how september does provide a really wonderful opportunity on so many different levels. You know, if you've listened well, I guess we haven't done one yet, but if you've ever listened to lindsey and I speak about january. We're not a fan of New Year's resolutions because, frankly, we set these massive goals and expectations that are too big to carry and people tend to fall off three and four weeks in, and it's this same cycle year after year. But January does present an opportunity as well. It's a beautiful time for a brand new start.

Lindsay: 5:37

New year, new start, new goals, new goals.

Ben: 5:39

Let's do it.

Lindsay: 5:40

September is almost like.

Ben: 5:42

September is the new January, is it?

Lindsay: 5:44

baby January it's second January.

Ben: 5:46

It's second January I think it's a really great opportunity again to re-evaluate, take a look at what you know you've been doing and what's been struggles and what's been going great. And I mean again from our perspective. You know, if you have kids or you know, summer tends to be a little crazy even if you don't have kids, Even if you don't have kids.

Lindsay: 6:05

You know you think about summer routines, If you think about the fact that you're spending more time outside, if you think about the fact that you're barbecuing, meeting up with friends, potentially going on vacations. You know, like Lindsay says, you're going on weekend trips or trips during the week. You know it's one of those times of year where we're really breaking our routines, we're really breaking our kind of weekly habits and we're throwing these things in and we're trying to navigate through being away from home and navigate from being away from our usual schedule. So things do get a little lost.

Ben: 6:37

Yeah, and I think when we speak to clients and potential clients and people out there who ask us questions, you know, oftentimes they say to us the week is okay, you know, I can follow the week and I can do the things on the week. It's the weekends that really struggle. So when I look at summer, I think you know, especially if you have the kids off or if you're doing lots of things or on your vacation, you're almost just dealing with a ton of weekends, right, and it makes it harder to keep on with your schedule, with your focus. And it's interesting, our kids, as I said, they they weren't necessarily jumping for joy to go back to school and even though you know they don't think that they love routine and they like structure everybody likes.

Ben: 7:15

I think they do realize, they do, you know, they actually likes it, and so when we come back to september, we're like okay. And whether your kids start back in school august 1st, like some of you out there who are listening, we're like okay. And whether your kids are back in school August 1st, like some of you out there who are listening, or if they went back to school yesterday or Monday or today, it doesn't matter, it's it's now's the time to kind of come back to what am I doing? What have I done? Well, what do I need to work on? And let's move forward.

Lindsay: 7:36

Yeah, I mean my own situation. I love the kids being off, I love the summer. It's my favorite time of year. I mean, obviously here in Mexico we tend to get like a lot of summer.

Ben: 7:45

Yeah, it's not the weather that we love.

Lindsay: 7:48

This isn't beach Mexico where we live. It's central Mexico, it's high desert, so we do get the seasons and it can get cooler at certain times of year. But I do love the summer. I love everything that the summer represents. I love seeing the kids finish school and actually just take that breath and have the summer ahead of them. I've got some great memories about summer holidays as a kid, so it's wonderful.

Lindsay: 8:08

But I personally really struggle with summer because I have a lot of conflicting priorities. Like, of course I want to spend time with the kids and of course I do spend time with the kids, but often that means that I have to compromise my regular schedule to make it work. And sometimes that compromise means doing things at off times. At other times that compromise means I just drop things and as I drop those things, the tension builds and I feel like I'm getting further and further behind, and I think that can happen with our health and it can happen with nutrition as well. So it's one of those things that compounds over the course of the summer. So I was glad to see them go back, but not in the sense of glad to see them go back.

Ben: 8:54

They're not like that.

Lindsay: 8:54

It was just more of getting into the, the structure that we're working on, yeah so we want to speak about september re-establishing those routines, re-establishing those habits, getting back into the swing of prioritizing fitness. And this isn't us saying to you this is what you need to do.

Ben: 9:13

We know that you're all thinking about this already, because it's a really common time of year to be like OK, I need to get back into my fitness routine, I need to get back into kind of looking out for my food a little bit and starting to reinvest time, energy and effort into my health right, and I think the thing with kids going back to school if that's where you sit is that it does free up a little bit of time, and some people might be listening and be like, oh my gosh, I don't have any more time, I have to pick them up, drop them off, do all their things. But if your kids go to school during the day, there is some time. If you don't work from home like we do, you know, yes, it changes things a little bit, but the reality is, structure of any description makes it easier to follow.

Lindsay: 9:56

I would go kind of one step even further than that. It might not free up time for me. I feel like it frees up mental capacity. So I actually don't have the mental capacity when kids are home and all of the stuff's going on and I'm already trying to juggle a schedule that I don't have enough time. I don't even have the mental capacity to think about prioritizing something else necessarily. Yeah, mental capacity is a big one. So then the mental capacity allows you.

Ben: 10:20

once you get some freedom back into the mind, okay, now I can really start to see myself pulling this into my schedule yes, and I think you know, when it comes to what we're talking about here again, I mean we often, we often turn around and say you know, these are the things that would be wonderful. And everybody is very personalized and what that means. You know whether, whether it's going for a walk or doing some personal training or going to the gym or going to some classes, honestly, it doesn't even matter what that part is, it's just taking what you can and saying, september, I'm here for it, we're ready to go. What can we do?

Lindsay: 10:55

I was having a conversation just about that. So, effectively, what you're talking about is getting moving, getting more active. Right, it doesn't have to be dedicated exercise time. It could be walking around the block with your son Walking his kids to school. I was just having a conversation with a client about this just yesterday, saying exactly that, Like you know, it's great to dedicate time to exercise. I'm going to spend 30 minutes lifting weights, going for a walk, stretching, doing some mobility work, whatever it is. That is amazing and, yes, you do need to do that, but sometimes, sometimes that can put a barrier up in terms of you saying I have to get changed, I have to put my shoes on, I have to find 30 minutes when all you have to do is grab your toddler by the hand and walk around the block.

Ben: 11:41

Well, I'll tell you. Today, Ben and I were having a conversation and I got up from the table that we were sitting at and I just started lifting weights and he's like what are you doing? And I think, better when we're having this conversation, we were brainstorming something and I just started doing some bicep curls, doing some overhead presses, and I mean it literally was probably 10 minutes, it's pretty weird.

Ben: 12:01

But here's the thing I didn't have to change, I didn't have to change positions, I didn't have to do anything. And we continue to have our conversation. And now I'm not saying that you know I've completed my workout, but I've done 10 minutes into strength training that I would not have done if I sat at the table and had that conversation. Now are you in the middle of your office meeting, starting to do, you know, overhead presses? No, but I think the big thing to keep in mind is, oftentimes we take the barrier of getting it done in a really big way. So, as Ben said, changing our clothes, putting our running shoes on, getting outside I don't have all this time to drive to the gym and do these things. It can be done anywhere, anytime, whether it's grabbing the toddler and going for a walk or grabbing the weights and doing it during our conversation.

Lindsay: 12:42

Totally so. In the spirit of keeping it simple, one of the things we have to think about is we might even feel overwhelmed getting back into our schedule. Lindsay and I are both big believers that fitness is kind of like the gateway into health. It's one of those things that people can see themselves potentially getting more active and going for a walk around the block. They can even see themselves, maybe, you know, going to the gym or lifting weights for 30 minutes three times a week. That is something they can see. It's tangible, it's quantifiable, it's time constrained and you can get an idea of what that looks like.

Ben: 13:18

So fitness is in many ways that gateway gateway drug to health right and it's one of these things that you know when we turn around to somebody and we've talked about this before you know, decision fatigue is a real life thing and you know if you can in our, in our sessions, when you come with one-on-one, you show up, you do the work and you go about your day. You don't have to think about anything. You don't have to do anything. Now we're saying come do that three times a week and all of a sudden you have been successful three times a week for 30 minutes to get your exercise in, and that's a great habit to stack. And then all of a sudden you're like but what about my food?

Ben: 13:51

I should probably look at that and what am I thinking about my sleep? And what am I thinking about my water? And all these things are building momentum because you've done the three times a week, 30 minutes, as a consistent habit.

Lindsay: 14:02

Right, and you can even take it further back if you're thinking to yourself oh my God, even that seems like a lot. First of all, you probably need to have a really hard look at yourself in the mirror. Priority and time conversation Right, like that's, you know, 30 minutes three times a week. Everybody, everybody can carve that time out. And if you're saying that I can't, then, like Lindsay says, it's a priority thing, it's it's trying to figure out you know you can lift weights while you're having a meeting.

Lindsay: 14:27

Right, there's ways well, I mean, even then, like there's part of me like I mean I look at the statistics, right, I look at the statistics around how much tv is watched. I look at the statistics around how much time online is spent surfing social media, and I look at those things and I look at those average statistics across.

Ben: 14:44

We look at those for ourselves. Right and now we're making conversation about it, so we know all of you are doing it too.

Lindsay: 14:50

So you know, when we think about the amount of time that we're putting in that it's like I saw something great this week.

Ben: 14:55

That said, you know, from a Netflix perspective, you know the competition netflix considers sleep it's only as their only competition or work, because some people have to go to work instead of watch right, watch netflix and you think about when you're watching netflix.

Lindsay: 15:13

You know you're you're wasting time in the sense of you're giving time away, right? So, again, we all need some netflix in our life for some great shows. But you know, I think the statistics are something like four and a half five hours a night or something crazy like that, and obviously everyone's like that's not me. Well, the question is, where are these statistics coming from?

Ben: 15:31

they're coming from somewhere it's not netflix, it's tiktok right guys, and we're not. We're saying this because I can call myself out on a tiktok brain dump sometimes where I just like where did that hour and a half go?

Lindsay: 15:45

So what Ben's trying to say Am I. Are you trying to polish my words?

Ben: 15:48

No, what I'm saying is, before he goes too far on the soapbox, is that everybody has time.

Lindsay: 15:54

I was just about to pull back myself and what I was actually about to say is you know, if you haven't been working out, or if you haven't been working out for a while, or if you've never worked out, you know the idea of doing, you know, set exercise three times a week for 30 minutes might seem scary. So that's where we're saying if that's you, get out and walk around the block, walk to the end of the street, walk back. Just do that for a few weeks, a few, you know, even a few months, months. When we do that into october, build that.

Ben: 16:21

you can start as small as that I've talked to you about my client, who you know, from an injury perspective and from a limitation perspective. We literally started with five minutes right put your shoes on, walk outside, go to the, go to the mailbox, come back.

Ben: 16:33

We're now up to 23 minutes and that is a massive, massive huge but it's been over six to eight weeks and you know, obviously checking in with her body etc. Etc. But that's the thing. Like it doesn't have to be scheduled. Strength training doesn't even have to be walking if that feels too much for your back, your knees, but there are ways to dance and sit in your chair and do kinds of any movements that are going to get you moving right.

Lindsay: 16:56

So you're listening to this particular podcast. You're already aware that your health's important and if you're listening to this podcast as well, you're probably trying to make small improvements to your health already. So that's what we need to do there is just focus on small improvements. They don't need to be perfect. They just need to be maybe bigger than they were last week or last month so you can build some momentum right. So if you're starting out walking or dancing or moving the body, that's great. Now, if you're already working out, then you can up the ante in that workout.

Lindsay: 17:27

It's time to dial it in a little bit more, dial it in a little bit more, it comes back to OK, if it's the second January, the new January, the small January, whatever you want to call it.

Ben: 17:35

It's now a moment to be like OK, what? What did I do well over the summer? What do I want to continue to do? What are some areas I'd like to improve in? And it's again. I spend time with my one-on-one clients I know Ben does too where in December?

Ben: 17:52

we prepare for January is in the new year not new year's resolutions, but the new year. We look at their accomplishments we've done. We look at you know what we'd like to improve on. September is just a really great time to do that as well, because now you were, you know, nine months into the year. New year's resolutions if you had them are well gone.

Ben: 18:04

We want to just take an inventory what's been going well what hasn't, and if summer is anything like, a lot of our clients travel and cabins and cottages and boats and all of that stuff has made an impact on their schedule. So now let's look at what we're doing between september to december so say.

Lindsay: 18:19

You're one of those people that are a little bit more dialed in on their exercise and you've been exercising fairly consistently through the summer. You feel pretty good. You might be sat here saying you know I did. I decided to myself that September I was going to dial it up, I was going to take it a step further, I'm going to look more meal planning.

Lindsay: 18:34

I'm going to up my or it could be just up my ante in terms of exercise and you need some extra accountability, or you need somebody to push you, and that's where, potentially, personal training comes in as an option, or one-on-one coaching, where you're getting that push and accountability and basically push to that next level by working with. You know you could work with lindsey or myself or a personal trainer in general, or you can find a way to take your exercise to the next level right. There's always opportunities, regardless of what level you're at Right.

Ben: 19:05

And I think too and just really quickly on this one, because I think this is important, I've actually talked to my clients a few times about this in the last few weeks is if there's an area that you can't necessarily dial up in.

Ben: 19:21

So, for example, maybe you have sore knees sore and you're like but ben, I can't walk around the block, it's too much, I can't do. That the thing is if you focus on the area that you can't do versus focus on all the things you can. So I'll tell you why. When I was feeling um my hip, I had to pull back on my running a little bit, but what I ended up doing is I might have pulled back on my running, but I was able to dial up on my stretching, on my strength, on my food, because one area doesn't dictate all areas, and I think that's really, really important to understand. So, no matter what we're saying, what you're doing or listening to, in this concept and when you're like, okay, september, I'm going to do this it doesn't have to be dialed everywhere, just working in one area to focus on.

Lindsay: 20:02

Totally, and I think one of the things to become aware of is we have a tendency to go to the reasons why we can't do something. It's almost like a natural human disposition. It's human nature. So you're going to do that, we all do that. I can't walk or run. Here's the reason why I can't do what you said. Okay, that's fair. There's people going to be sat here watching this that have issues, injuries, or should I say listening to this, maybe watching one day, but what you can then do is turn around and say, okay, I recognize, I've just said that to myself. All right, now let's flip that and reframe it. What can I do?

Ben: 20:37

Right, so if you have bad knees, you can absolutely sit in a chair and do some work on your upper body. If you have bad knees, you can absolutely focus on your water or your food Right. And these are the things.

Lindsay: 20:48

If you have, if you have a bad bank, you can get on the floor and do strength and mobility exercises.

Ben: 20:52

where you're locked in, against the floor If you have a bad hip where you know, I had to pull back on my running.

Lindsay: 20:57

That meant I really did need to incorporate my stretching and my yoga and that comes back to something we've talked about before is it's like shake that idea that fitness and health looks like this, it looks like this and it's like so. When it looks like that, you start to measure yourself against that and if you aren't able to do those things, you start telling yourself that's not possible. The reality is, fitness to Lindsay lookssey looks very different to fitness to me. Fitness to lindsey and I looks very different to whomever you want to compare us to, and that's okay because fitness is entirely unique. It's customized to you.

Ben: 21:33

But also don't let other people tell you what fitness should look like.

Lindsay: 21:37

Don't even start. I am so sick to death of seeing the five best exercises. Or, if you want to lose 20 pounds, do these four things. What's?

Ben: 21:45

the best exercise to work your bum. Well, if you don't want to work your bum, why are you even looking at this exercise? But even when you think, about.

Lindsay: 21:51

It is like health is on a spectrum.

Ben: 21:54

Right.

Lindsay: 21:55

It isn't an absolute point, and Lindsay and I talk about this all the time with this idea of eight to ten thousand steps. Right, eight to ten thousand steps we've talked about, you've heard us talk about. It's not bad in the sense of what you're effectively saying is get moving. Do we want you to walk more? Yes, right, if you're. If you're walking seven thousand steps, then maybe a goal for you is to try and walk eight thousand steps walking three, going to ten is not even realistic and you're probably going to hurt yourself and if you're at three, maybe eight to ten isn't your destination.

Lindsay: 22:22

Maybe you are happy and comfortable at five and a half to six, but you've effectively doubled your activity. Great, take advantage of that. All you do trying to do is to find that magic balance point for you for you and that, I think, is the big thing for you.

Ben: 22:37

So if you are like me tiktok, instagram consumer and you see all these fancy things going on there, and then you know you're like and I get this a lot, I get clients sending me like articles or Instagrams or TikToks and they're like you know, can you do this or should we do that? And I'm just, they're not talking to you, they're talking to, most of the time, people who can't do a lot of those things anyways. So find something that works for you I refuse to get tiktok.

Lindsay: 23:05

I know you do.

Ben: 23:05

Lindsey's trying to get me annoying because I want to share things with him that are not kind of funny. You know, like I always say I want a raccoon or I want a baby big deer or you know whatever, because I get stuck into that. But then there's some that are really valuable and he can't even look at them if you don't have tiktok anymore. They've changed that.

Lindsay: 23:27

Start from where you are and do something you know. One thing we would ask you to really try to avoid is if you are listening to this in September, is actually not doing anything till October. Get started now, like that's got to be your goal. Get started as soon as you possibly can, but don't think back to this podcast in four weeks and be like I should get started in October, right, and then again in.

Ben: 23:54

November. You hear this all the time. Right, I'll start on Monday. I'll start on Monday, I'll start on Monday. And we understand the concept behind starting on Monday, getting prepared for food over the weekend, whatever that looks like. But, honestly, if there's one thing you could do, take away from this and you're listening to it, I don't care when you're listening to it Do something, get up, dance for five seconds. Do something right now, today, so that you can say I started because, honestly, I mean you do it right now, and we don't care if you're in the grocery store.

Lindsay: 24:26

You dance down that aisle, no one's watching baby.

Ben: 24:30

No, of course, do what makes sense. I mean, you're not doing it while you're in the car, you're not driving. We don't ask you to get into a car accident. But the idea is do something. Don't wait, don't think I'll do it on Monday, don't think I'll do it next month. Just do something. It doesn't have to be perfect, just do something Right.

Lindsay: 24:46

It of resonates when I think imperfect action is better than no action right, you have to be great to start.

Ben: 24:53

What's that?

Lindsay: 24:54

I know I'm you don't have to be great to start you have to be.

Ben: 24:58

You have to start to be great yeah, I helped you there you did I don't know that one, you don't.

Lindsay: 25:02

Well, maybe I did I think you do.

Ben: 25:04

The idea behind it, obviously, is that you don't. You don't have to be perfect, it doesn't have to.

Lindsay: 25:08

You don't have to be great to start.

Ben: 25:09

You just have to start to make some movement.

Lindsay: 25:12

You have to imagine turning around to a toddler that's not yet walked and saying to them you can't try walking until you can walk right, which is basically what we're saying.

Ben: 25:22

So we're wrapping it up, we're bringing it down. It is september. If you're listening to it, real time you're doing something right now while you're listening to us, as long as you you're not driving and you're just going to do something to get started and remember that something is for you not for anybody else, not for your sister-in-law, not for your best friend, not for your colleague at work. For you what works best for you.

Lindsay: 25:41

And if you need help and if you need support and if you don't know, and you need the support and guidance to get you to where you need to get reach out. This is what we do we help you become consistent, we help you become disciplined and we help you to show up for yourself.

Ben: 26:00

We start you where you're at right, and that's another big one. And really the biggest thing is show up for yourself. You know, give yourself the promise that you're going to do it, and then you do it. And when you work with either Ben or I, give yourself the promise that you're going to do it, and then you do it. And when you work with either Ben or I, the reality is we're on the other end, so you're showing up because you know we're there for you Because you're scared.

Ben: 26:19

I don't know. I don't know how scared, actually, maybe scared.

Lindsay: 26:20

The accountability is huge. The accountability is massive.

Ben: 26:36

I always say I get off my sessions with my clients and I'm just like man, I wish I had a me right and I mean I have a coach in a different, different aspect but like, of course you're going to get it done because they're there. I'm there giving them exactly what to do, timing them, counting them, telling what weights to use and just flowing them through no decisions being made. I'm just like yes, yes, I often ask.

Lindsay: 26:44

There's a lot of clients that answer this way, but one particular client I always say how are you doing? Which is a greeting. I want to know how she's doing, and she'll often turn around and say I'm here.

Ben: 26:53

Right.

Lindsay: 26:54

And when you think about it in that sense, certainly from a personal training perspective, that's a key difference, right? Because I know for a fact that if she wasn't working with me, she wouldn't be here.

Ben: 27:04

She wouldn't be there, she wouldn't even show up for herself. So, anyways, if you need support, reach out.

Lindsay: 27:09

That is what we do, that is what our passion is, and it's the perfect time of the year, because it's September and there's a Monday coming.

Ben: 27:15

Yes, perfect, anyways, as always, guys, thank you so much. Please share this with someone who you know or maybe you overheard your colleague at work talking about doing something and not wanting to do something for September, I don't know. Share it with anybody who might have benefit from it and of course, if you have any questions, reach out, because we answer those questions on this podcast on a regular basis. That's what we do. That's what we do.

Lindsay: 27:40

That's what we do. All right, until next week, guys. Have a good one. Bye, speak to you all soon. Bye.